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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

The Wealthy Educator | Chris Travers

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Careers, Investing, Business

4.85.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

A public school teacher in New York City hit a million-dollar net worth by 36—earning a teacher's salary in one of the most expensive cities in America. Chris Travers cracked the code through a combination most people overlook: maxing out both 403(b) and 457 plans, running a profitable side hustle as an athletic trainer, and making unconventional housing choices that saved him thousands. His journey from financially clueless at 26 to financially independent a decade later proves that high salaries aren't required—just strategic use of the tools already available to public employees. Financial Learning Journey [00:01:00] Chris's transformation started when he realized inflation was eroding his savings. With no investing knowledge in his family, he reached out to an uncle who refused to simply tell him where to invest. Instead, he pointed Chris to "Get Rich Slowly" and recommended "The Millionaire Next Door"—books that fundamentally shaped his financial mindset and taught him to think long-term about wealth building. Understanding 403(b) and 457 Plans [00:04:09] For public school teachers, the combination of 403(b) and 457 plans offers powerful advantages. While the 403(b) functions similarly to a private sector 401(k), the 457 plan is a game-changer: it allows penalty-free withdrawals upon separation from service, providing flexibility for those not planning a 30-year tenure. Chris emphasizes that many teachers don't fully understand these tools, leaving significant retirement savings potential on the table. The 457 plan's unique feature means you can access funds immediately after leaving your job—no age 59½ requirement, no penalties. This flexibility makes it particularly valuable for anyone pursuing financial independence before traditional retirement age. Building a Side Hustle [00:16:00] Beyond his teaching salary, Chris leveraged his certification as an athletic trainer to build additional income streams. This side work not only supplemented his income but also expanded his professional network and created opportunities he wouldn't have had otherwise. The key was choosing work that aligned with his existing skills and credentials. Frugality and Living Situation [00:20:05] One of Chris's most impactful decisions was living at home during his early earning years. While not glamorous, this choice accelerated his path to financial independence by eliminating housing costs in one of the world's most expensive cities. He remained mindful of spending throughout his journey, prioritizing long-term wealth building over short-term lifestyle inflation. Thoughts on Home Ownership vs. Renting [00:23:13] In New York City, Chris made the counterintuitive choice to rent rather than buy. The math simply didn't support homeownership: sky-high purchase prices, substantial maintenance costs, property taxes, and the opportunity cost of tying up hundreds of thousands in down payment money. For him, renting provided flexibility and freed up capital for investments that would compound more effectively. The Importance of Flexibility in Career [00:36:15] Financial independence gave Chris something invaluable: career flexibility. Rather than feeling trapped in a job for the paycheck, he gained the freedom to teach because he genuinely wants to, not because he has to. This psychological shift transforms how you approach work and life decisions, allowing you to pursue passion over paychecks. Conclusion and Resources [00:39:21] Chris co-authored "TLDR Financial Literacy for New York City Teachers," a concise guide helping fellow educators navigate the specific retirement and financial tools available to them. He emphasizes that financial literacy should be taught in schools, and educators themselves need better resources to understand their own financial options. Key Quotes: "I recognized how inflation was diminishing my savings." [00:01:10] "Short-term sacrifices lead to long-term success." [00:12:00] "Living at home was vital in kickstarting my fina…

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Choose a Five.

0:01.9

Today on the show we have a really interesting story

0:04.1

from one of our community members, Chris Travers,

0:06.3

who is a New York City public school teacher

0:09.1

who actually posted on our Facebook group

0:11.6

a couple months ago with this really fascinating post and

0:15.1

it just struck a chord with people and it was essentially, hey I figured out money at the age of

0:20.7

26 and now fast forward 10 years later at the age of 36 and I reached a

0:26.4

million dollars net worth and of course as you can imagine there were a ton of

0:30.8

questions how does a public school teacher do this? How do you do this? How do you do this?

0:36.1

Living in New York City? Chris's story has a little bit of everything and I knew that I had to have him on.

0:41.5

I think this is one you're really gonna enjoy.

0:43.8

And with that, welcome to Choose Ev-Fi.

0:46.0

Chris, thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm really looking forward to this

0:56.4

chat. Thank you for having me, big fan of the show, happy to be on. Nice, yeah, this

1:00.6

should be fun. So, okay, I guess let's start at the beginning, which sounds like it was somewhere in the vicinity of the age of 26. I'm not sure if it was somewhere prior to that but talk to me about the origin story of

1:14.7

Chris figuring out money. Yeah so I've always been a good savor I think I was blessed with that I

1:20.4

always had that saving mentality no one in my family really knew anything about investing.

1:25.0

And at that point in my life, I saved a good amount of money.

1:28.0

And I kind of realize I'm losing purchasing power due to inflation.

1:31.0

I can't just have this sitting in a savings account. I need to start

1:33.7

figuring something out. I had an uncle who was good with money so my mom at the time said

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