This is the waves.

This is the waves.

This is the waves.

This is the waves.

Welcome to the waves.

Slates podcast about gender, feminism, and this week below deck.

Every episode you get a new pair of feminists to talk about the thing we can't get off our minds.

And today you've got me, Susan Matthews, Slates News Director, and the editorial director of this podcast.

And me, Shaina Roth, Slate Podcast Producer for shows that includes this one.

And today, Shaina and I are going to be interviewing Rachel Hargrove from below deck about reality television, the yachting industry,

being a chef and being a woman at the same time as all those other things.

So, Shaina, when you first had the idea to book Chef Rachel on the show,

I was essentially just like taken aback by your brilliance. For me, below deck was a major quarantine binge.

My boyfriend started watching it in April of 2020 and watched like an entire season in two days.

And then was like, you have to start watching this show with me.

And I think that I got into it because it has provided a set of really attractive things for this moment.

I always describe it to people as a workplace drama, which is something that I was immediately missing when like offices were no longer a thing.

And then it also takes place in like the claustrophobic quarters of a yacht, which felt very relatable at a time that we were all stuck in our homes.

And I think that the other thing that was really attractive about it though was that it was also in these exotic beautiful locations.

So you felt like you got to travel a little bit too.

So I started binging the seasons and then we got to a very memorable season, which is going to be the subject of our show today,

which aired about a year after the pandemic had started.

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