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The Waves: We See Dead Girls

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves, we’re bringing out the dead girls. Everywhere you look in popular culture there seems to be a new movie, TV show or true crime documentary detailing the mystery of yet another woman’s death. At least, that was how author and guest Alice Bolin saw things when she wrote her book Dead Girls in 2018. She sits down with Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth to unpack what has - and hasn’t - changed in dead girl culture (from Twin Peak’s Laura Palmer to our persistent obsession with Elizabeth Short aka The Black Dahlia) and what this fixation says about all of us. In Slate Plus: What was really going on inside the Playboy Mansion. If you liked this episode, check out: I Don’t Care If You Like Me Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to [email protected]. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now at slate.com/thewavesplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the waves, Slates podcast about gender, feminism and America's favorite trope.

0:12.0

Every episode you get a new pair of feminists to talk about

0:14.7

the thing we can't get off our minds and today you've got me, Shaina Roth, I'm a

0:18.7

senior producer at Sleet. I remember my first dead girl.

0:24.0

I was 8 years old.

0:27.0

I was in the grocery store of my mother and it was one of those big shops

0:31.0

where it's groceries for the family for the week and then some.

0:35.4

And this was well before self-checkout, so my mother was chatting with the cashier and putting

0:39.8

the food on the bell one thing at a time and I was bored. I looked at all the candy

0:45.7

touched all the lighters and other random impulse by items in the aisle and now I

0:50.2

was on to the magazines.

0:53.2

I noticed her hair first.

0:55.3

Big blonde hair that seemed to take up the entire cover of the tabloid.

1:00.1

Her lips were a shiny purple pink color and she was wearing a large dress.

1:05.5

It was huge. And between the sleeves on the dress and her hair,

1:08.9

it took me a minute to realize I was looking at a child.

1:15.2

It was John Bonet Ramsey.

1:16.8

Past Santa Claus in his sleigh and a double row of candy canes.

1:21.1

Deputy Corners brought the body of six-year-old John Bonet Ramsey from her upscale home.

1:25.8

Neighbors described the young girl as beautiful and polite. In 1995, she won the Little Miss Colorado pageant.

1:34.0

Boulder police won't comment on her cause of death,

1:36.8

only saying that she wasn't shot or stabbed.

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