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The Waves: The Afghan Women Left Behind - Gender And U.S. Immigration

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🗓️ 28 September 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves, Host Kat Chow turns to Afghanistan, two years since the chaotic withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country. She speaks with reporter Tanvi Misra, who recently published an article with Politico following a family trapped in immigration limbo at a U.S. embassy in Doha, Qatar. Tanvi also explains how the U.S. immigration process singles out women and marginalized genders.

Further reading: They Thought Their Sick Little Girl Would Be Safe in America. Then It Denied Her Family Entry.

In Slate Plus: The drama and life of luxury on Prime Video’s Made in Heaven with Host Kat Chow and reporter Tanvi Misra

If you liked this episode, check out: Incompetent Cervix - The Misogynist History Behind Naming The Female Body

Podcast production by Vic Whitley-Berry and Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Waves Slates podcast about gender and the exhausting complexities of immigrating

0:12.8

to the U.S. Every episode this month, you've had me, Kat Chow, talking to someone smart

0:18.4

about something I can't get out of my head. This is the last episode of the month where I'm

0:23.7

in the host seat, so if you've enjoyed my other interviews, how about giving the waves

0:29.3

all the stars wherever you rate your podcasts? Not to be thirsty, but to be thirsty. Maybe you can

0:36.4

leave a comment like, I love Kat Chow, or Kat Chow is amazing. Just some suggestions. Who knows?

0:43.6

Maybe they'll bring me back. So there's this story that Politico magazine published recently

0:49.6

that's been on my mind. It's about a family from Afghanistan, these parents and their children,

0:55.5

and they've been seeking resettlement in the United States, but have been stuck in a bureaucratic

1:00.3

limbo for years. They have two precocious little girls who are kind of rambunctious and would be

1:08.4

extremely constrained under the Taliban if they were to still live there. In addition to that,

1:14.2

coming to America, both the parents, for example, grew up in most of their lives were spent under

1:22.2

American occupation. So they are very familiar with the promises that American life makes.

1:29.6

That's the reporter who wrote this story, Tundi Misra, who, disclaimer, she's also one of my

1:35.2

very good friends. We're going to unpack the ways her reporting on immigration also overlaps with

1:41.1

gender. But first, before we get to that, some backstory. September 11th, 2001.

1:49.2

And about five minutes ago, as I was watching the smoke, a small plane, I did look like a

1:56.6

propeller plane came in from the west, and about 20 or 25 stories below the top of the center,

2:05.7

it disappeared for a second and then exploded behind a water tower. So I couldn't tell whether

2:12.0

it was at the building or not, but it was very visible that a plane had come in at a lower

2:17.2

altitude, appeared to crash into the World Trade Center. If you were around then and old enough,

2:24.1

you probably remember where you were when you heard about the planes hitting the twin towers.

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