Hello. Hi. It's wonderful to see you. Thank you. Nice to see you, Emma.

Thank you for your time again. I don't know how you think back on the conversation we had back in 2014 in your home.

But as time has passed, I've come to realize, like, it's one of the most treasured encounters

I've had in my work and in my life.

Really?

Yeah.

And for a number of reasons, I think, like, you let me into your home.

I started asking you very probing questions about things you had written about in your memoir,

but maybe things that you didn't talk about at length with journalists often.

And I can hear back in that tape all the moments where you were making choices about how honest to be, you know?

That's so interesting to hear.

This is how I started my recent video call with Ellen Burstyn, as we were talking again while she sat in her upper Manhattan apartment.

This is death, sex and money, the show about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.

I'm Anna Sale.

We shared that first conversation I had with Ellen in 2014 in our podcast feed last week.

She was 81 then.

Last December, Ellen turned 90 years old.

When we spoke recently, a new dog was curled at her feet.

Her name is Carrie.

She's right here beside me.

She lifts her head.

You're talking about me?

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