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The Waves: Penis Politics

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🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves, the next presidential election is one year away and we are entering a storm of macho man politics. Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth is joined by NPR politics reporter Danielle Kurtzleben to talk about why men keep talking about their manly-men bonafides, how that affects women trying to be in politics, and more. More From Danielle and Mentioned in the Episode: All the Things I Wish Someone Had Told Me Before I Gave Birth by Danielle Kurtzleben The Race I Will Watch Most Closely in 2024 (Besides President) by Danielle Kurtzleben A Professional Lady Correspondent Stares Down Motherhood by Danielle Kurtzleben Male Democratic Candidates Will Have To Answer Gender Role Questions In 2020 Race by Danielle Kurtzleben How 2022 Became the Year of Over-the-Top Masculinity in Politics by Bill Donahue In Slate Plus: A check-in on new mom Danielle and whether she has in fact become a “mom” or just a person with a kid. If you liked this episode, check out: Are “Cool Moms” A Menace? Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Vic Whitley-Berry with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to [email protected]. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now at slate.com/thewavesplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Waves Slates podcast about gender, feminism, and politicking.

0:10.6

Every episode you get a new pair of feminists to talk about the thing we can't get off our

0:14.3

minds.

0:15.3

And today you've got me, Shayna Roth, a senior producer here at Slate.

0:18.9

Later in the show, I'll be joined by NPR Politics reporter Danielle Kurt Slavin to talk

0:23.2

about a little election that's coming up way too quickly.

0:29.1

In June of 2022, the Washington Post Bill Donahue claimed that 2022 was the year of over

0:36.0

the top masculinity in politics.

0:38.9

He opened the piece by saying, quote, if you look at the campaign ads for this year's

0:43.2

Senate races, the message is clear.

0:46.4

Men live in Missouri, in the heart of America, on the Ruby Red Plains, where the pickups

0:51.0

are large and the flags fly high, end quote.

0:54.7

And he pointed to quite a few races.

0:56.6

He pointed to former Missouri governor and then Republican Senate candidate Eric Griton's

1:01.4

posting a video of himself at a shooting range with Donald Trump Jr., then there was Senate

1:19.9

candidate Jim Laman from Arizona, who had a Super Bowl ad where he literally puts himself

1:25.7

in the old West in like a showdown against people that are supposed to be Joe Biden, Nancy

1:31.2

Pelosi, and somebody named Shifty Kelly, and I'm not 100% sure who that was supposed

1:35.1

to be.

1:36.1

It's a DC game.

1:38.1

Only if it isn't big Jim Laman.

1:47.1

We're trying to be a pusher out.

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