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The Waves: It’s Not TV. It’s a Sh*tshow.

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4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves, the streaming wars have come for us all. The Daily Beast’s Allegra Frank sits down with Inkoo Kang of The Washington Post to talk about what happened at HBO and where gender fits into it all. HBO Max recently canceled the nearly done Batgirl, and has been quietly removing content from its streaming service as it prepares to merge with Discovery+. Allegra and Inkoo talk about how streaming services reducing their content offering likely spells trouble for non-white, non-male voices.  In Slate Plus, is Batman feminist?  Recommendations: Allegra: Never Have I Ever on Netflix Inkoo: The Harley Quinn series on HBO Max   Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus, Alicia Montgomery and Daisy Rosario. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Waves, Slates podcast about gender, feminism, and this week, The Batman.

0:22.8

Every episode, you get a new pair of women to talk about the thing that we can't get off

0:27.1

our minds.

0:28.1

And today you've got me, a Ligor Frank, a deputy editor for The Daily Beasts Obsessed,

0:33.9

and me, Inga Kang, TV critic for The Washington Post.

0:39.4

Inga and I are here to talk about The Batman, among other things.

0:44.9

We're here to talk about Batman, Batgirl, and Warner Bros., where they currently live,

0:51.6

or they did, in the case of Batgirl.

0:54.1

Recent news was HBO Max canceling the release of The Batgirl movie.

0:59.0

The movie was already shot, and now it's being shelved, which is very, very rare.

1:05.4

And it generated a lot of questions on both what is happening to the platform, but also

1:10.8

what this means for content featuring women and other marginalized identities in a traditionally

1:17.0

pretty white male genre.

1:20.3

And I have done some reporting on this, I wrote a piece for Obsessed About It, and I've

1:25.8

spent a ton of time thinking about HBO Max and Warner Bros., and Batman and the DC Universe

1:33.1

and men in different kinds of ways.

1:36.9

I won't get into that.

1:38.5

Inga, why do you want to talk about this?

1:42.5

This is a topic that I can't stop thinking about, because now after these years-long discussions

1:49.0

about what is television, what are the streaming wars?

1:53.2

Why are we seeing so much content?

1:56.0

Now we are forced to reckon a little bit with the gendered nature of the streaming wars.

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