The Wars Before the War

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4.6 • 917 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Quillette podcast host Jonathan Kay interviews Jonathan Spyer, director of research at the Middle East Forum, about how Israel laid the groundwork for its war with Iran by confronting threats in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and Yemen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the year 2000.
0:02.8	Everyone, everywhere, is having fun, except me.
0:06.6	On BBC Eye Player.
0:08.0	I worry you're growing up too fast.
0:10.6	Yeah, we can't be your little duck here forever, can I?
0:13.0	Inspired by a true story.
0:14.8	You walk out of this house a boy.
0:16.4	One day you'll come back.
0:17.8	When you do, you will be a man.
0:20.2	Oh, and hard your breath.
0:21.5	What it feels like for a girl. I wish I could look like you.
0:24.7	Baby, you can. Well, don't you?
0:27.0	Watch on BBC Eye Player.
0:31.9	Welcome to the Quillette podcast, hosted on alternate weeks by me, Jonathan Kay, and by Iona Italia.
0:39.8	Quillette is where Freethought lives. We are an independent grassroots platform for
0:44.3	heterodox ideas and fearless commentary. You are about to hear a free preview of this
0:50.0	week's episode. To hear the full episode, and to get access to all our podcasts and articles,
0:56.1	visit us at quillette.com and click the subscribe button. And in this episode, I'll be talking
1:02.7	about the same subject that many of you probably have spent much of the last week thinking about,
1:07.7	the war between Israel and Iran, which began on June 13th when
1:13.4	Israel attacked dozens of Iranian targets with the publicly stated aim of stopping Iran's
1:19.8	nuclear program.
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