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Science vs Māori Knowledge

Quillette Podcast

Quillette

Politics, Science, Society & Culture, News, News Commentary

4.4929 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Iona Italia talks to Professor Kendall Clements of the University of Auckland about attempts to conflate traditional Maori knowledge with science, which, he argues, debases both. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the Quillette podcast, hosted on alternate weeks by me, Jonathan Kay, and by Iona Italia.

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We are an independent grassroots platform for heterodox ideas and fearless commentary.

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You are about to hear a free preview of this week's episode.

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visit us at quillette.com and click the subscribe button. I'm your host this week, Iona Italia.

1:04.4

My guest today is Kendall Clements, a professor at the University of Auckland, who specializes

1:10.3

in the ecology and evolution of fish.

1:12.6

We talk about attempts in New Zealand to conflate Mataranga Māori,

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