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You're listening to BBC sounds. Hello there and welcome to another edition of Scrum 5 the warm up, your Thursday evening slice of all things.

Welsh Rugg B, episode 3, we're well and truly up and running now.

I'm joined by another three great guests this week, two former card of captains in Josh Turnbull and Ellis Jenkins

and having made his Gram-5 the warm-up debut on week one, John and Davis is back by popular demand and back in Wales John

because you managed to squeeze in what was a final summer holiday. Yeah maybe

maybe not we'll see but no.

You can do what you want now.

Well, yeah, exactly.

I went over to France down to see,

I caught up with George North and his family.

So it was a nice little trip and, yeah,

I managed to find my way back to Cardiff.

How's George doing?

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