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Hello, welcome to Scrum 5 in conversation.

I'm Garthry-Souin and this week my chat is with Tain Plumtree. Tain of course is the

24-year-old back rower who's had quite a journey on his way to wearing the red of

Wales and the scarlets. He was born in Wales when his dad John was

coaching Swansea. His mom is South African and his childhood was well quite

nomadic. It's clear that this upbringing has had quite an effect on him as a rugby player as he

looks to establish himself as a starter for Wales. So here he is, Tain Pumtree. So what are you now you're 18 months in Wales no not not not not much about 14 months. Because you you got the call he came

over and then you went straight to Switzerland was it? Yeah that's it I I spent about

three days in London after getting air and then straight on the on the plane to Switzerland

So you born in Swansea, Morrison?

Um, no. No, no.

It's on my passport.

Oh, it's s skitti on my passport. The hospital,

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