The detransitioners who I mentioned who sat with the secretary in her conference room, they were telling about how many people to this day will not speak to them, refuse contact with them.

Because they're coming out and saying that they were the victims of this horrible gender ideology.

And for many of them, physically as a result, they have damage for the rest of their lives,

not to mention the psychological trauma of what they have endured.

And they're the ones who are pariahs in their communities.

It's insane.

Outstanding is a production of the Washington Stand, your source for news and commentary from a biblical

worldview.

Welcome to the Out outstanding podcast. I'm

your host, Casey Harper. On this podcast, we dive into top political and cultural topics from a

biblical perspective. For this episode, I have Julie Hartman. She's from the Trump administration,

the Department of Education. Thanks for joining us, Julie. Thank you so much for having me, Casey.

Yes.

So you've been in office six months, roughly.

Kids are going back to school in August.

What's different?

Oh, my gosh.

So much is different.

Great.

There's a new sheriff in town.

That's very true.

That's very evident.

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