Hello, everybody. This Jake Sends a host of the Jake and Gino podcast here with my co-host,

a multifamily mentor, the coach of chef, father, six, bestselling author, The Gene Eddie.

Gino Barbo, Gene, how's it going?

Jake, this is going to be an amazing podcast. You know why? Tell me more. I've been working

my entire life

for this moment because I felt the resistance when I read the book of The War of Art. It to me was

life-changing and I already gone through the epiphanies. I'm going to hold both of these books up for

everybody right here. The War of Art and Turning Pro. And you know, I've got six kids. I've got an amazing wife. I rarely make promises in life because I know they always backfire. But if you're listening to the show right now and you're procrastinating, you don't know the next step. You're feeling resistance. You're stuck. I promise you, if you go out and you buy the war of art and you read it, it will help you. It will give you clarity. I call it a casamiento, though.

It's like in Spanish. It's a wedding. It's the rice and the beans. You can have the rice. It's great.

You can have the beans. It's great. But if you put them together, marriage made in heaven. It's just like

Jake and Gino. Jake by himself is really good. Gino by himself is really

good, but you put them both together. So I promise everybody out there, go and pick up the war of

all right. It's got over 11,000 five-story reviews on Amazon. So there's a lot of people out there

that agree with me. I love the book. It was amazing. I picked this one up. And then after I read this turning pro, I felt that resistance within me, should I reach out

to Steven Pressfield? Is you going to think I'm a loser? Is you going to say yes? He's going to say no to me.

And fortunately, I had, you know, Jake on my shoulder. And you're the G Daddy. You got this.

And I said, you know what? I'm going to try. If he says no, not the end of the world. It's okay, but I knew that resistance was telling me that I needed to do that. So we're going to be diving into all these topics today.

I'm super excited to be on the call here.

And thank God, I overcame my resistance and we're able to bring Stephen Press with you today.

I'm still giving the formal intro because that's just what we do.

And then we're going to hit this.

So our guest today wrote for 27 years working 21 different jobs before getting his first novel published. He is a definition

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