The Viral Growth Strategy to Build a Brand People Trust with Julie Cyvonne, Riley & Kaylie Miller
The Chris Harder Show
Chris Harder
4.9 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 16 February 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
You don't get paid for who you think you are. You get paid for how the world experiences you. In this episode, Lori and I sit down with our 3 VIP Mastermind guests. Julie Cyvonne is back to break down feedback, perception, and why who you think you are doesn't matter nearly as much as how you're actually perceived. Then, Riley & Kaylie Miller, founders of The Property Wives, share how standing unapologetically for marginalized communities has exploded their growth on social media, deepened their mission, and attracted their ideal clients. We talk about what happens when you take a public stand, how to grow fast on platforms like TikTok, and why empathy is one of the most underrated business superpowers. Get ready to rethink what it really takes to grow online and in business.
HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 How people see you is your responsibility.
05:45 How to separate your worth from your business data.
08:15 The "rule of 3" Julie uses to decide which feedback to integrate.
12:15 How does a high performer go from good to truly great?
15:00 Why in-person retreats accelerate transformation faster than online coaching.
18:00 Are you avoiding the one thing that could set you free?
22:00 Meet Riley & Kaylie Miller of The Property Wives.
26:00 Creating the largest platform for safe relocation for the queer and trans community.
27:30 The barriers marginalized communities face in homeownership.
32:00 How to buy a home with only $1,000 out of pocket in Colorado.
34:00 How did you gain hundreds of followers on TikTok in a single day?
43:15 The 1-minute exercise that will instantly build empathy and leadership.
RESOURCES
Connect with Julie Cyvonne on Instagram: DM "JOURNEY" to take her FREE microdosing quiz
Learn more about Julie's upcoming retreats and programs HERE
Learn more about the Safe Haven Homes Initiative HERE
Join the most supportive mastermind on the internet - the Mentor Collective Mastermind!
Make More Sales in the next 90 days - GET THE BLUEPRINT HERE!
Check out upcoming events + Masterminds: chrisharder.me
Text DAILY to 310-421-0416 to get daily Money Mantras to boost your day.
FOLLOW
Chris: @chriswharder
Lori: @loriharder
Frello: @frello_app
Julie: @juliecyvonne
Riley & Kaylie Miller: @thepropertywives
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | We get these messages all the time from people who are like, both of you are so loving, even though we have different beliefs in you. |
| 0:06.7 | And we always are saying, choose love over hate. |
| 0:09.6 | Someone can totally hate us for what we stand for, but we're still going to choose to love them. |
| 0:13.7 | And I would say the two of you will be so successful because people want a great business. |
| 0:18.6 | They want to make a ton of money and they forget that we're all human at the core. It doesn't matter who you think you are. This is going to be a little controversial, |
| 0:26.5 | but if people aren't seeing you that way, it's really important for you to open your eyes and realize |
| 0:30.7 | why aren't they? Like I think that I'm so nice, but clearly there is a disconnect in how I'm presenting. |
| 0:36.4 | So maybe I should clean that up. |
| 0:38.3 | Mic drop. I want to make sure people really caught that. People think, well, I know who I am. |
| 0:42.9 | And that's all that matters. Nope. In the real effing world, what matters if you want to get somewhere |
| 0:47.6 | is how people perceive you. Where's my responsibility in that. |
| 1:00.5 | Welcome everybody to the Chris Harder Show, where we are making you unapologetic about your pursuit of success, knowing that when good people like you make good money, they can |
| 1:04.4 | then do great things. |
| 1:06.3 | My name is Chris Harder and several times per week, I will bring you epic guests, solo episodes, |
| 1:11.0 | and every single tool, trick, and skill set you need to grow your business, grow your money |
| 1:15.3 | mindset, and to grow your wealth to levels that you have never reached before. I've ended up in a |
| 1:20.2 | unique place in life where I've got the experience, the connections, and all of the secrets |
| 1:24.2 | that it takes to be successful. And I'm lifting the curtain to reveal it all to you |
| 1:28.9 | in an effort to help put you in a position of abundance so great that you can then be as |
| 1:34.0 | generous as possible. So let's lock arms and let's get started. Julie, welcome back on the show. |
| 1:43.7 | We have you on the Earn Your Happy podcast and the Chris Harder show. I'm excited we get to interview you together again. |
| 1:49.1 | It's almost like you become our resident psychedelic expert of this. It's been six months since you've been on the show. And it's like, oh, let's check in and see what psychedelics could do for us six months later now. |
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