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Stay Tuned with Preet

The Vindictiveness of Donald John Trump

Stay Tuned with Preet

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Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Will Jim Comey succeed in seeking dismissal of his criminal charges? In an excerpt from this week’s Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the former FBI Director’s motion to dismiss his indictment citing the unlawful appointment of Lindsey Halligan as the Eastern District of Virginia’s interim U.S. Attorney.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce analyze Comey’s other motion to dismiss on the basis of selective and vindictive prosecution. They also share their reactions to the indictment of former Trump National Security Adviser John Bolton.  CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis.  Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Joyce Vance here.

0:03.5

Preet and I are out with the latest episode of The Insider podcast.

0:07.1

Today we discuss former FBI director James Comey's efforts to dismiss his indictment.

0:11.7

Then we break down the 18-count indictment against John Bolton, Trump's former national security advisor.

0:17.2

If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed, or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to hear the full episode.

0:25.6

Stay tuned, listeners, stick around for an excerpt from our conversation.

0:29.8

Members of Insider help support our work and get access to full episodes and other subscriber benefits.

0:35.9

Head to cafe.com slash insider or stay tuned.substack.com.

0:41.3

Now, on to the show.

0:48.6

Motion number two, which is also quite a good motion and almost never available to any defendant.

0:57.9

It's a motion in memorandum in support of a motion to dismiss the indictment on the grounds

1:02.5

that the indictment is fatally flawed because it results directly from a paradigmatic

1:06.9

violation of the appointments clause and the statute authorizing appointments of interim

1:11.5

U.S. attorneys, 28 United States Code, Section 546. I have a historical anecdote to relate with respect to

1:18.5

section 546. In my earlier capacity, I had direct involvement with that statute when I worked on the

1:24.8

Hill on the Senate Judiciary Committee, but that's just a preview of a very

1:28.4

exciting nugget, Joyce, for our very lucky listeners. What is this thing about?

1:35.8

Yeah, so this is about something that I just hate to wade into, right? This is the Vacancies Act

1:42.3

that governs how and when interim or acting U.S.

1:45.7

attorneys can be put into place when there's a vacancy. And the argument here is that the

1:52.3

administration didn't use the right process for making Halligan, a United States attorney.

1:57.8

You know, the typical route is you get nominated by the president and you get Senate confirmed,

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