Well, you know, unfortunately we see a lot of shows like Lock Up and so forth that

portray a certain subset of what goes on in prison and you know that's real, but

there's a lot of things that are not necessarily shown all the

time that are really positive. You know I had no experience with prison never been

in prison before I stepped in a prison before.

I stepped in St Quentin the first time.

So I didn't, I had the same sort of perception

that most people do.

St Quentin is a very ominous looking place and it has death row. It has all the death row made for California.

So I thought, you know, this is a sort of a place where people go to serve out their time and you know a lot of these guys are beyond any type of help.

That was my perception and for most people I think that's the case.

What happened for me even the first time I went in and started talking to the guys

and I did a presentation to a small class about entrepreneurship and I did not have any idea that the response that I would get would be so amazing and deep.

These guys were just thirsting for education, thirsting for a conversation about things that they were so interested in.

The guys wanted to start businesses, they wanted to learn, and it really immediately changed my perception of that.

And what we try to do a lot now is bring people in.

Like I bring in portfolio CEOs, I bring in people that I know know other investors and whatnot.

We have demo days in there where the guys pitch their ideas and they're phenomenal and every

person that walks out has a different perception and that person becomes an ambassador of what we're doing.

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