All right, everybody. Welcome back to the Boothley podcast today. I want to talk about something

which I know a lot of you struggle with. I see it all the time in the hospital. The community,

the Boothley community, and Ferverfield, and it's hiring. There's a certain point in your business

career where you go from doing everything yourself and you go, right, I want to hire. And then you know,

you've heard of things like Upwork and Onlinejobs.ph and all those crazy places and you go out and you

hire and it's a disaster. And there's many reasons why it is a disaster and then you have to start

all over again. And if you get burnt in the first time, you get overwhelmed. You never do it

again. You've got, I said, I'm not doing that. But I heard about a solution. My good friend is

with me on the left. And I really want to get him on. It's taken a while for us to do it. But I'm

really glad we're going to get it done now because this service is something that I want you all to

dial into. There's a link. We're going to give you some. Make sure you check out for that. Well,

I bet in all the notes and all the things. But without Ferver, Michael Shoggan, thank you for

coming back. I believe this is the hat trick, the third appearance on the podcast. So get the

hat trick ball next time I see you. So thank you for coming back. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah,

thanks for having me. So by now, everybody knows who you are, the story, the journey, etc. But can

you just sort of wound it back to the day that you realized that this service that you're offering

now and what we're talking about now, what made you like at that light bulb moment of actually,

I think I can do someone with this. Yeah, it comes back to why I started from the beginning.

I mentioned it. I'll keep it short. But I talked about it in Nashville last year. I was like,

I didn't get into this business because I loved hosting and all that stuff. And that's great.

If you're into it, I get into it as a business opportunity because my kid was sick and I wanted

to create a business that didn't rely on me. Something that I could build, that eventually,

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