Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

Can you digger?

Greetings your listeners.

This is Jonah Goldberg.

Host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

Very excited for today's.

He's technically not a new guest, but he's a new guest for me.

I was traveling once, and Brother Starwalt had today's guest on to talk about, among other things,

the bogiosity of rural rage. You might want to go back and check that episode out.

I met our guest Tyler Austin Harper.

The fact that all serial killers and presidential assassins have three names should not freak anybody out.

I met him speaking at Bowden College where he was my interlocutor.

We kind of hit it off and just get a lot of nerding out on just nerdy

intellectual history stuff. He's a staff writer at the Atlantic. Prior to that, he was a professor

of environmental studies at Bates College, where, as one would expect of environmental studies

professors, he taught courses on literature film and the history of science. Was this a boutique understanding of what environmental studies meant? Well, the great thing about environmental studies, if you're a humanities person, is everything has the environment in it, right? So, like, I would teach courses on, you know, I teach Jalls in my courses. Like, you know, Shark is in the environment, right? So, yeah, as a, as a, you know,

educator, it's good to be in those interdisciplinary programs because they're pretty capacious and

you can usually chase whatever particular whims you have or find reasons to justify, you know,

why you want to teach things you like. So you just blow the doors wide open on the real

environmental state of Walden Pond.

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His writings appeared in the New York Times, Washington Post, Slate,

Jacobin, and other outlets. He has a PhD in comparative literature for NYU, and he is a co-host of the

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