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This is C.J. Ortiz, the Mettle Motivator.

And we're going to go into a deep discussion with Pat McNamara.

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Now, let's go into the interview with Pat Mac.

This is a subject that you've covered a lot of ground on.

You've written books on the subject.

You've discussed this in detail.

However, I wanted to throw at you a lot of questions

to my goal is always to dive just a little bit deeper because I think, as I said, just a little bit

ago, I want what people want, which is to really tap into your outlook on things, because I just really believe that

a voice such as yours is just very pertinent to the times in which we live. The average person,

as you've noted on many occasions, is stuck in 45-degree syndrome. So they've relinquished

that primal instinct. They've relinquished their situational awareness.

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