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If you're like me and you're over 40, you actually remember the world pre-internet,

which for a lot of people in here doesn't exist.

And so, from afar, you know, to be, and he hates when I pontificate about this, but when you are literally the leader,

the, you know, rainmaker of Hollywood during a pre-internet world,

you are not only at the top of Hollywood, you know, you're talking to somebody that thinks that Hollywood has been the great engine that has built the American brand over the last hundred years.

So, if you think about having a decade when nothing significant doesn't run through you or your organization,

it's really, there is no current comp in our society of like dictating culture

because the internet has amortized it out to a lot of leaders.

And so, when you think about, you know, four to five or six or seven individuals map to the level, you know,

it's not a money thing, it's an impact on culture and really just a level of power.

We just, there aren't a lot of individuals who've had a run on dictating what this country consumed and thus the world,

more than what Michael did at the top of CAA.

And what did you learn from him observing him the last, you know, 20 years?

Being obnoxiously powerful is cool. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

I think, I think what, I think it's a little bit different, actually. I have a very nuanced answer.

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