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The UK’s New Asylum System

Newscast

BBC

Politics, News

4.46.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Today, Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood speaks to Laura about the government’s new immigration plans.

Under the plans, people who are granted asylum will need to wait 20 years before they can apply to settle permanently. Plus, refugee status will be cut from five year to two-and-a-half years and then regularly reviewed thereafter.

Laura, Paddy and Henry discuss the new proposals, plus the ongoing rumours about the Labour leadership.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

So, for a long time, ever since I was a nipper, as a young political journalist,

0:10.0

successive governments have come along and said,

0:13.0

The asylum system is dreadful, it's in chaos, it's all a terrible mess.

0:17.0

We have to sort it out.

0:19.0

And also, it's not just the government.

0:24.5

It's the refugee charities who say the system's not working either.

0:27.3

No one is happy with how the UK system's working.

0:30.8

Enter into this, the new ish Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, with what she is claiming is the biggest sets of changes to immigration policy since the war.

0:36.6

I think there's going to be rather a lot of vigorous debate about this in the next few days.

0:40.8

Let's get underway with Sunday's newscast.

0:43.8

Newscast from the BBC.

0:46.2

Fat boy sliver me in the classroom doing our violin lessons.

0:49.1

I was the tattletail in the class.

0:50.4

Can I have an apology, please.

0:51.7

I trust almost nobody.

0:53.4

That daddy has to sometimes do strong language. Next time in Moscow. I feel delulu with no salulu. Take me down to Downey Street. Let's go have a tour. Blimey. Hello, it's Paddy in the studio. And it's Laura in the studio. And it's Henry at home. Rishi Sunak, I want to go first. Rishi Sunak said stop the boats. He didn't stop the boats. And he later admitted that he'd been a mistake to simplify that issue and make it a pledge. And to make it so salient in people's minds. Because guess what? if ministers appear behind lecterns that say three

1:27.5

dramatic words again and again and again and they say those three dramatic words out loud again

1:33.4

again then you create a prominence for an issue and also a promise that actually cuts through to the

1:39.3

public who quite rightly are spending most of their lives not thinking about politics but But if you put everything into these very effective three-word slogans,

1:47.1

the public then expects that you might even vaguely appear to be doing something about it.

1:51.6

And of course, small boat crossings have stayed at roughly the same level.

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