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So Adam, it's 11 o'clock at night as we record newscasts, but hey, you're used to this kind of

timekeeping these days. Yeah, I only want to do podcasts at strange times, anti-social times.

Don't say that. Don't say that. That's just guaranteed it, hasn't it, for the next few weeks?

How are you? Are you recovered? Yeah, I was fine, actually. So I had two snoozes on Friday afternoon and then a big long sleep on Friday night into Saturday morning. And I was fine. I had enough energy to build a bookcase and a wardrobe. Blimey, I've flippen egg. I don't have enough energy for that even when I've slept perfectly. That's because you do 25 hours a day every day.

Well, there is that.

There is that.

So what was the kind of, what was the low point of the whole 25 hours? When did you think, oh, you know, it's a bit, it's a bit hard of this. Not to sound like a politician, there were no low points. Oh, only high points. Do you know what it was? It was about about half past midnight and my eyes really started hurting because this studio, the lights are so bright. And I'm also realized if all you're doing is either looking at your laptop or a person in front of you, your eyes get quite tired. You need more visual variety.

Ah, yes, I'm not thought of that. And I suppose at half midnight, I was watching at that point, because you're talking about ghosts.

Yeah, well, that was definitely a highlight.

Yeah, and I suppose at half midnight, you know, you've still got, it's quite a long, there's still a long time to go, isn't there? As I suppose by three or four in the morning, you're thinking on the home straight now. Also, I need to get in touch with Agar as Jonathan Agnew, because I'm still not convinced he knew he was actually on air, because it did feel like he had just phoned me up and were having a chat. And I know that's the podcasting vibe, but I think maybe he took the vibe too far. Also, maybe he's just a total pro and can make it sound very natural. I reckon it's the latter, exactly. I think so too. That's why I've not checked them. It's going to be a massive insult.

Oh, should we just explain? The reason we are recording so late on Monday evening, or Monday night, in fact, is because Shabana Mahmoud, the Home Secretary, was doing her statement in Parliament today about the government's big proposals to change the asylum system. But there were several urgent questions beforehand, and they take precedence in the parliamentary order. So she ended up doing her statement quite late and then you were doing an interview with her, which was even later,

and then you had to do the 10 o'clock news. So here we are at 1057. That's the gist of it.

Later than normal? Or actually that is quite normal now for an episode of Newscast.

Newscast from the BBC. Fat boy sliver me in the classroom doing our violin lessons.

I was the tattle tail in the class.

Can I have an apology please?

I trust almost nobody.

That daddy has to sometimes do strong language.

Next time in Moscow.

I feel delulu with no salulu.

Take me down to Downey Street. Let's go have a tour. Blimey. Hello, it's Adam in the newscast studio. And it is Chris at Westminster. And we'll be here for a mere 27-ish minutes, which seems very fleeting. Yeah. So, Chris, we had quite a lot of build-up to Shabana Mahmood's big unveiling of the changes to the asylum system

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