The UK is on a Hard Road tackling immigration concerns

Planet Normal

Louisa Wells

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News, Telegraph, Planet Normal, Current Affairs, News And Current Affairs

4.7 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Co-Pilot Pearson is taking a break but fear not, Nick Timothy is strapping in to help Co-pilot Halligan make sense of this week’s madness.

Liam is pleased Labour have caught up with the rest of the country in talking about addressing ‘concerns’ over immigration, but is concerned they haven’t given any substance to their position or how they will achieve it.

Nick points out Labour scrapped the Rwanda scheme deterrent and still don’t have a concrete plan other than speeding up decisions, which is leading to yet more increases in channel crossings.

Strapping in, having delved into the history of the ECHR in the UK, is Lord Peter Lilley who has some myths to bust…

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0:51.3	James Cleverly comes back, Big Beast, former Foreign Secretary, former Home Secretary.
0:57.9	In his first interview, he basically disagrees with Kemi and says we shouldn't leave the ECHR.
1:03.0	Four.
1:04.2	The British public had been pretty angry with immigration for a really long time.
1:08.3	Three.
1:09.7	I looked into the history and it turns out to be complete bunkum.
1:13.1	Two.
1:14.7	Well, we have a big problem but just we let the country down.
1:18.0	One.
1:21.6	We have left off.
1:24.9	Welcome once again to Planet Normal, the teleraph podcast with me, Liam Halligan, and
1:29.5	ordinarily Alison Pearson. But the co-pilot's taking a break. So I'm delighted to welcome back
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