Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs Magazine,

and it is my great privilege to be joined today by the journalist and filmmaker Abby Martin.

She is the host of the Empire Files. She also directed the 2019 film Gaza Fight for Freedom. And most

recently, she is the director of the new documentary film Earth's Greatest Enemy, which I

had the privilege of seeing last night at a screening here in New Orleans

and which was recently reviewed in Current Affairs magazine by Carissa Halstrom.

Abby Martin, thank you so much for joining us here in the current affairs offices.

Amazing to be here, Nathan.

This film is a very difficult thing to get through.

It's a remarkable piece of work.

You've worked on this for five years.

You and your co-director, Mike Prisner,

and your director of photography and editor is fantastic, too.

Thank you so much, Taylor Gill.

Yeah, just the editing on this thing is, it's, it's, um, I want to try, if you try and describe

this film in a simple way, it sounds, you would say that it's a film about the effects of the

US military on the environment, the destructive climate consequences of US military action.

But I feel like that massively oversimplifies what you're doing in this film.

And as I was trying to think, you're almost instead trying to explain to show people how the forces of destruction in our world today work.

And so while it looks like a film about the climate consequences of the US military, it's more than that.

So how do you explain what you're trying to convey with this film?

It's a really interesting angle to look at it as kind of the holistic approach of our

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