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The New Yorker Radio Hour

The U.F.C. President, Dana White, on Donald Trump: “He’s Not a Racist”

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

4.26.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

White discusses his relationship with the President, the upcoming match on the White House South Lawn, and why he thinks he’s above politics.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The New Yorker Radio Hour is a co-production of WNYC and The New Yorker.

0:08.3

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick.

0:12.2

There will be a variety of celebrations to honor America's 250th anniversary this year, and much of it can be easily anticipated.

0:21.3

Plenty of fireworks, buildings bathed in red, white, and blue lights, even a military parade.

0:27.5

But something else is happening, something that probably would not be happening if anyone

0:32.8

other than Donald Trump was in the White House.

0:35.8

It sounds crazy.

0:37.1

I know it's going to be very high security and high stress and weird to have a fight at the White

0:42.5

House in the middle of a fucking war.

0:44.7

I would hope the war will be sorted out by June, but quite honestly, I'm not confident

0:50.6

that that's going to be the case.

0:51.9

No.

0:52.5

Yeah.

0:52.9

Yeah.

0:53.4

So that would be weird. That's Joe Rogan describing the upcoming fight be the case. No. Yeah. Yeah. So that would be weird.

0:59.2

That's Joe Rogan describing the upcoming fight on the South Lawn of the White House,

1:03.1

put on by UFC, the ultimate fighting championship.

1:06.1

That's the Premier League for Mixed Martial Arts,

1:09.6

where fighters call on a variety of styles from around the world, and it's arguably the most brutal

1:12.0

professional sport and also one of the most popular. UFC was founded in 1993, but it wasn't a big

1:20.1

success until Dana White took over as president of the company in 2001. It kept growing and

1:26.9

growing until last year, the UFC

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