A FEMA Insider Says Morale Has Never Been Lower at the Embattled Agency
The New Yorker Radio Hour
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🗓️ 26 May 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The New Yorker Radio Hour is a co-production of WNYC and The New Yorker. |
| 0:07.0 | Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm Adam Howard. |
| 0:12.0 | We're confronted with so many scandals when it comes to the federal government under the second Trump administration |
| 0:18.0 | that many controversies which would normally dominate the headlines |
| 0:21.7 | have largely flown under the radar. Take, for instance, a situation at FEMA. Yes, there is a situation at |
| 0:29.6 | FEMA. The oft-criticized but crucial agency tasked with helping states respond to all manner of natural |
| 0:35.9 | disasters has endured tremendous internal strife over leadership, |
| 0:40.3 | and reports have suggested that its mission has been compromised by partisan decision-making. |
| 0:46.3 | President Trump, who is the sole arbiter of who ultimately gets FEMA relief, |
| 0:51.3 | has rejected aid for Democratic-led states at the highest rate in the nearly 50-year |
| 0:56.3 | history of the agency. He's approved only 23% of Democratic requests, while approving 89% of those |
| 1:03.8 | coming from Republicans. This has led to accusations of emergency aid being used as a political |
| 1:09.7 | cudgel, and it's had a chilling effect on some of the rank and file that work at the agency. |
| 1:15.3 | I spoke to a longtime employee of FEMA about what's going on behind the scenes, and whether it could have a negative impact on the agency's ability to respond to the next inevitable crisis. |
| 1:26.3 | Since they are currently still actively working in the federal government, they have asked us to shield their identity. So we have digitally regenerated their voice for this interview. |
| 1:39.3 | Now, you've worked at FEMA for over a decade spanning four different administrations, including the current one. |
| 1:45.5 | Is that right? |
| 1:46.1 | That's correct. |
| 1:47.4 | What would you say morale is like there right now? |
| 1:51.0 | Morale right now is the lowest that I have ever seen it. |
| 1:54.5 | In terms of both people having seen a lot of leadership and a lot of institutional knowledge walk out the door due to the DRP program, |
| 2:02.8 | other people just quitting. |
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