You unlock this door with the key of imagination.

Beyond it is another dimension, a dimension of sound,

a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.

You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance,

of things and ideas you've just crossed over into the twilight zone.

You're moving. A couple of months ago now I presented to you an interview that Rod Sailing did with Mike Wallace back in 1959.

And it's a good way for me to keep the podcast moving

keep it rolling along when life starts to get in the way and I can't commit to

get an episode out as often as I would like you've been with me this long you know how

it goes so I thank you for sticking with me but I also

like to put these things in because we're here because we're interested in Rod Sailing not just

the Twilight Zone but what he had to say himself and what was interesting in that interview was

it was just before the Twilight Tone started, so

Rod Sailing was still quite fresh-faced.

He hadn't spent five years toiling away on that show, fighting those battles, writing

those many, many scripts, and really being the creative force behind the whole thing

and in that interview he spoke about something I think he called it pre-censorship

or something along those lines where he said a writer will often censor themselves

before they submit the work or even write the work.

And the reason they do that is because they know that certain things won't fly on television.

And while I think Rod Sailing was very open and honest in that interview,

again it's only going to go so far because it's on television, it's on prime time television,

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