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Today we are going to take a little bit of a tour back in time to Butler, Pennsylvania,

because I have Selena Zito with me.

She is a veteran political reporter with more than 20 years of experience based in the swing state of

Pennsylvania and I believe Western Pennsylvania, which is where I was born, where my parents

grew up. So as I was reading this book, I didn't know that. Yes. Yeah. And as I'm reading

the same, my dad's from Pittsburgh. And I'm reading this book and I'm like, man, this, it was so powerful because just the way

you talked about seeing someone in Pittsburgh being so small and all of the conversations

throughout this book about Pennsylvania were very meaningful to me.

But I think so meaningful to the entire country.

So she's written a book.

It's called Butler. I'm going to hold it

up here so you can see. And I said to you before we got on, it's so much more than Butler. So thank you for

writing this. Thank you. It is so much more than Butler. Obviously, that's a very pivotal moment,

right? I think all of us have seen, to some degree or another,

what happened either through television or social media or you knew someone or you were there.

However, the story of Butler is the story of the heartland of this country. And whether you live

in Pennsylvania or Michigan or Ohio or Wisconsin, North Carolina,

anywhere that is often sort of not sought of as part of elite culture, right?

Right.

You can see yourself and you can feel and you read that book and you're like, I know these people. I see these people every day. That's my family. That's me. That's my neighbors. And that is, I think, what is part of what's most compelling about the book, not just the, you know, that day and what led

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