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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Fear God, Not Man: The Five Biblical Pillars of Coaching ft. Mike Swider

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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4.511.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

📍What happens when a coach cares more about eternal purpose than just wins and losses? In this inspiring and emotional episode, David Rutherford sits down with legendary Wheaton College football coach Mike Swider, a man who led his team to 9 championships and transformed countless lives through servant leadership, unwavering faith, and deep integrity.

Coach Swider lays out his five core principles that shaped his program and his players:

  1. Fear God

  2. Trust God

  3. Seek God First

  4. Reject the Philosophy of the World

  5. Never Forget the Cost of Your Salvation

With stories of hardship, victory, and legacy, this episode challenges us to reflect on who we are, what we believe, and how we lead. This isn’t just a conversation about coaching—it’s a spiritual blueprint for every man who wants to lead with truth, courage, and faith.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - The Role of Men, Fathers & Coaches

13:10 - The Leadership Quality You Must Have

19:36 - Why We Must Fear God, Not Men

26:59 - Trusting In God, Even When It’s Hard

34:54 - Seek Ye First…Putting God At The Center Of Everything

43:33 - Reject The Ways Of The World

47:49 - When Your Faith Is Shaken, Remember This

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0:00.0

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0:04.8

Since the age of four, I have been involved in organized sports and dedicated the whole

0:11.4

first half of my life pursuing a destiny of being an elite athlete.

0:18.8

And I had literally hundreds of coaches come across my, my path and that quest.

0:25.1

And since I was in the SEAL teams, I had dozens and dozens of instructors that had

0:31.1

profound impact on me.

0:33.3

And then even being out in my professional life and all the different sports teams and coaches

0:38.2

I've worked with myself.

0:40.1

But I have never met an individual that has had such a long-lasting and deep and profound

0:48.0

impact on the men that he coached.

0:51.5

I've had the incredible opportunity to meet and work as colleagues with 20 plus of his

0:58.0

former players. And it's them that introduced me to the idea of what it really meant to be a

1:05.7

servant coach, to be somebody that utilizes God as a primary force of influence to shape young men into

1:14.6

becoming the men they hope to become.

1:17.6

And so, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it is an unbelievable privilege and pleasure

1:22.5

to welcome coach Mike Swider, former head football coach of 23 years at Wheaton College, a D3 school in

1:31.4

Wheaton, Illinois, with nine CCIW championships, seven Division III tournament appearances,

1:39.3

and seven CCIW Coach of the Year awards.

1:43.2

So without further ado, coach, it is an incredible honor to have you on the show.

1:48.4

Thank you.

1:49.8

Well, it's great to be here, David.

1:51.4

It really is.

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