Have you guys announced an arson tour yet? No, we're doing a lot of festivals and we do have a bunch of headline dates that we're about to put out with somebody really awesome. And it's going to be a great, great two separate runs with them. If people want to try and figure it out, have you toured with them before? It's been a month of arson now. A month of people committing arson all around the world. How does it feel having it out into the world where people can actually listen to it? It's awesome. Yeah, it's been done for a while. So for us, you know, because every record you finish it and then it's like six months before you actually put something out. So we've been listening to it for so long, but it's like good to have actually see reactions and it's been going over very well, very well received so far. So it feels awesome to have a new

record out that people are liking that we love. And after 20-something years to be able to still

do it the way we do it. And it's awesome. Is it a weird adjustment for you that people actually

can form their own opinions on it? Because you guys have sat on these for so long now. Well,

I haven't heard hardly any negative stuff.

So, yeah, it's like, it is weird to see what songs people like prefer or what they

gravitate towards, you know, because we always are like, all right, this will probably

be like one of the bigger ones or, you know, gasoline, the first single.

We did not think that would be like the first single.

It was like, that's just going to be a heavy album track, you know? But then everybody's like, no, no, that's got to be

the first song we put out. And it's like, okay, cool. It's like, that song's fucking awesome. Can I say fucking awesome? Please. Yeah, so yeah, it's weird to see like what songs people like the most. It's always a little bit of a surprise to us, but it's a cool surprise.

Were there any shocking songs?

Not super crazy.

It's all the ones we pretty much figured, but there's a song called Halos that's later in the record that was one of the last songs we wrote for the record. And we kind of threw it together at the end, and it was like we didn't have time to think about it a whole lot. So a lot of people have been saying, dude, it sounds like old story of the year. I love that song. And we're like, oh, cool. That's what we were going for. But I did not know if it was going to be received that way. So that one was kind of a surprise. Other than that, it's the ones we love to. It's like, you usually kind of know. The album process started with nearly 100 tracks. fucking Ryan our guitar yeah. How do you narrow those down to what you want to put together? We just go in the studio. He just constantly is writing. So every record we've ever made, it's like usually 40, 30, 40, 50 demos. So then they accumulate and it's like keep trying to bring back different. But it's like demos just mainly like riffs and like a couple little song ideas it's not usually vocals or anything you know it's just just music ideas so we go in the studio on these last couple we just get in the studio and just go through the songs and go that's a cool riff let's work on that and then we'll start adding vocal ideas or singing in the room and seeing what everybody likes and just kind of building on the demos.

So yeah, it's like we just kind of go through until we go, that's a cool riff, you know.

We don't work on all 50 songs or whatever, you know.

It's like we just pick the best stuff of what he was feeling and kind of go with it.

There must be some kind of challenge too that you want to try and stray away

from past songs and not have similar riffs or styles. Yeah, we have rewritten like the exact same

things before, especially Ryan because he does write so many demos. There's this song on our fourth

record called The Constant and I think it's called The Children's Sing. I think it's the first song.

But there's like a riff on that

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