The Truth Behind the Warrens, Part Two | Grave Talks CLASSIC
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4.6 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
The paranormal world knows the names Ed and Lorraine Warren—but few know what it was like to grow up inside their shadow, inside their legacy, and sometimes, inside their battles with real darkness. Christopher McKinnell does.
As the grandson of the most famous demonologists in modern history, Christopher didn’t just hear the stories… he lived beside them. He witnessed the aftermath of cases Hollywood could only hint at. He saw objects in the Warrens’ occult museum that radiated with something so heavy, so wrong, even seasoned investigators refused to enter the room. And he learned early that some hauntings don’t end when the lights come on—they linger, watching.
Christopher steps out from behind the legend to reveal what the movies left out, what truly happened during the case of the “flying bed,” and why the darkest forces the Warrens ever encountered were far more dangerous than any screenplay dared to show.
This isn’t the story of Ed and Lorraine Warren. It’s the story of what it’s like to inherit their war. This is Part Two of our conversation.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to part two of our interview with the grandson of Ed and Lorraine Warren, Christopher Edward McKinnell, |
| 0:08.0 | and about his experiences growing up in the family, and his experiences as a paranormal investigator himself, |
| 0:15.4 | Annabelle, and obviously another very famous case that they were involved with. |
| 0:21.2 | What was your knowledge of that as a child, |
| 0:23.8 | and how did your learning of that begin? |
| 0:28.0 | Well, Annabelle didn't show up until I was almost 10 years old. |
| 0:31.5 | Okay. |
| 0:32.5 | So I didn't have to deal with her. |
| 0:34.1 | Sure. |
| 0:35.6 | You know, and then she was always in the box, you know, on display, never had to deal with her. Sure. You know, and then she was always in the box, you know, on display, never had to deal with her. |
| 0:42.7 | Yeah, it was spooky as heck. Definitely creepy. And, you know, for your listeners who don't know, |
| 0:50.7 | Annabelle is a raggedy and all. Yeah. So, you know, most of those are really cute. |
| 0:55.8 | Sure. |
| 0:57.2 | But not the real Annabelle, no. |
| 1:00.5 | But I've never had to deal with Annabelle. |
| 1:03.9 | Annabelle has always been contained. |
| 1:09.0 | She's shown up at a couple of psychics that I work with, you know, projecting |
| 1:13.9 | herself, but she really can't do anything, not anymore. |
| 1:18.9 | Why is it? Why is it that she can't do anything anymore? |
| 1:23.0 | It's the way she sealed in with prayers with blessed salt. |
| 1:29.4 | We've got her locked down. |
| 1:30.3 | Okay. |
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