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The Daily Beast Podcast

The Truth Behind New Trump Epstein Photos: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to reveal stories behind newly released Epstein photos. Together they sift through the blacked-out faces, the Mar-a-Lago-style party shots, and a younger Steve Bannon seated in Epstein’s ornate study—the man he once admitted was the only figure in 2016 who truly scared him. Wolff explains why these images are surfacing now, how both parties are weaponizing them, and why they revive long-buried questions about Trump’s ties to Epstein. Coles ends on the unavoidable question: Are there more Epstein and Trump revelations still waiting to be discovered?

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We could look at the photos that have just been released by the Oversight Committee,

0:06.5

which give us more insight into Epstein's lair.

0:10.5

Would you like to do that?

0:12.4

Why not?

0:19.0

Michael.

0:21.6

Joanna, nice to see you back in the United States.

0:26.0

I'm relieved to be back.

0:27.4

I love traveling, but I also love coming home.

0:29.8

And I thought we were going to kick off this morning talking about Indiana and Mike Pence's revenge, but then dropped a trove of photos from the oversight committee

0:41.0

on Epstein.

0:42.0

When you said this, I just had to pause a moment to think, what was Mike Pence doing in

0:47.8

this middle of this?

0:49.2

And then I remembered that he was once the governor of Indiana.

0:53.5

But that would not have been, that would not have come immediately to mind.

0:58.1

Who even remembers Mike Pence at this point, except it turns out, I think the people in Indiana,

1:03.0

who clearly are appalled by Trump, have said they don't like his tone, they're not going to be

1:08.5

bullied, they don't care about being primary.

1:10.4

If Mike Pence was actually expressing himself in Indiana on this point? I want to be clear on

1:18.4

this. I have absolutely no idea. But of course he was. Of course. Let's not even second guess

1:25.8

ourselves there.

1:28.7

Of course he was.

1:37.0

Of course he hates, as is the experience with virtually everyone who comes into direct contact with him.

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