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🗓️ 8 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | It's the Brian Laira show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. |
| 0:15.1 | So have you asked yourself, what percentage of immigrants detained by ICE are the violent criminals who President Trump claims are his top priority? |
| 0:25.1 | Well, according to a Cato Institute review of deportation data from the first half of this year, |
| 0:30.5 | almost half of the people being detained don't even have criminal charges against them. |
| 0:35.5 | The numbers come originally from the deportation data project |
| 0:38.9 | at the University of California at Berkeley. |
| 0:42.0 | A New York Times article last week about this data set focused specifically on New York stats, |
| 0:46.8 | which indicates similarly that through October, around 45% of detainees had no criminal convictions and no criminal charges. So let's take a |
| 0:58.9 | closer look at some of those numbers and their implications for innocent people's lives with |
| 1:04.1 | David Beard, Director of Immigration Studies and the Sells Foundation Chair in Immigration Policy |
| 1:09.7 | at the Libertarian Cato Institute think tank, |
| 1:13.2 | and we'll invite your questions and stories. David, thanks for joining us. Welcome to WNYC. |
| 1:19.4 | Thanks for having me on. And listeners, have you been detained by ICE or know someone who has, |
| 1:25.5 | despite having no criminal convictions or criminal charges, |
| 1:29.1 | tell us your story or their story, 212-433, WNYC, call or text, 212, 433, 9692, and the way mass deportation |
| 1:42.2 | is being conducted. |
| 1:43.9 | How is it affecting any community you might be part of or involved with, even if you haven't been detained or don't know anybody individually who's been detained? |
| 1:54.1 | How is it affecting behavior in the community? |
| 1:57.8 | Fear, going to school, anything else. |
| 2:00.2 | 212-433-9692. |
| 2:03.7 | And yes, we can also have the policy debate. |
| 2:06.4 | How much is this approach right or wrong? |
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