The Truth About Trump's Second Term Foreign Policy Strategy, and the Charlie Kirk Void, with Michael Knowles, DeRosa and Bednar
Next Up with Mark Halperin
MK Media
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 73 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome in everybody. Welcome to Next Up. I'm Mark Kalperin, the editor-in-chief of the live interactive video |
| 0:06.9 | platform, two-way, the host of this ye-old program available on YouTube and as a podcast. And grateful to you all |
| 0:14.2 | for tuning in to be a nexter is to understand and appreciate what we try to do here, which is to tell you |
| 0:20.1 | what's coming next up. |
| 0:22.2 | You've got good judgment if you like this show, my mom says, and I'm glad to have you here. |
| 0:27.3 | First up today, next up will be my reported monologue. |
| 0:31.4 | Trying to make sense of this week where there's this weird dichotomy where almost every political pundit and strategists |
| 0:38.8 | will say President Trump needs to focus more on what's going on at home. |
| 0:43.8 | That part of what's ailing his poll numbers is over focus on foreign policy and national |
| 0:48.9 | security. |
| 0:49.9 | And yet President spent much of this week in Davos dealing with a bunch of foreign policy issues. |
| 0:55.9 | So I've talked to folks who've worked for past presidents who served two terms and talked to them about what causes a president to spend so much of second term focus on national security foreign policy. |
| 1:08.1 | It's an interesting story about the psychology and the practical realities |
| 1:13.2 | of being a second term American president. So I will bring my reporting to you there and eager to |
| 1:19.4 | hear what you think about what I found. And then later in the program, after that, two strategists, |
| 1:25.2 | smarties who will tell us what's going on in american politics their |
| 1:28.6 | perspective uh melissa derosa democratic strategist and mark bedner a republican a principal at monument |
| 1:34.8 | advocacy they will both be here and then michael knolls back on the program host the michael |
| 1:40.0 | no's show on the daily wire is going to talk to us about his perspective on life, |
| 1:46.9 | happiness, and other stuff. Anyway, excited to talk to all three of them, excited to do |
| 1:53.2 | that business, but also before they join us again. In just a moment, my reported monologue, |
| 1:59.5 | that's next up. If you're a homeowner in the |
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