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The Brendan O'Neill Show

The truth about the Epstein Files, with Michael Tracey

The Brendan O'Neill Show

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News, Society & Culture, Government, Politics

4.71.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Journalist Michael Tracey returns to The Brendan O’Neill Show to discuss what everyone gets wrong about the Epstein Files, the dangers of abandoning due process and how the media embraced a conspiracy theory. Become a spiked supporter to access all of spiked’s exclusive content, and get unlimited, ad-free reading and other perks: https://www.spiked-online.com/support/ Order Brendan O’Neill’s After the Pogrom now from: 🇬🇧 📕 Amazon UK:  https://www.amazon.co.uk/After-Pogrom-October-Israel-Civilisation/dp/1068719303/  🇺🇸 📕 Amazon US: https://www.amazon.com/After-Pogrom-October-Israel-Civilisation/dp/1068719303/  Support spiked: https://www.spiked-online.com/support/  Sign up to spiked’s newsletters: https://www.spiked-online.com/newsletters/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

How I would summarize it all is that was something that spiraled totally out of control

0:04.2

through a massive confluence of political, cultural, and other factors.

0:08.9

The train has left the station and it's impossible in my experience to reason with people

0:13.2

who have been wedded to these quasi theological beliefs around the Epstein saga.

0:17.8

And also, most people aren't looking through the details,

0:20.7

so they are not equipped to understand

0:22.8

why so much of what they're being told is overblown.

0:25.6

Because I've always tried to be as steadfastly evidence

0:28.5

and fact-based as possible.

0:29.8

Whereas the people who tend to most flamboyantly disagree with me

0:33.3

really seem to have no concern whatsoever

0:35.1

for remaining tethered to the facts

0:36.7

and they would rather just enjoy their excitable theories. Nothing was ever proven about Prince Andrew. People think that a

0:42.5

photo of him purportedly with Virginia Roberts Gouffray and Galane Maxwell in Belgravia, London in

0:48.8

March of 2001 is like ipso facto proof that he committed child sex crimes? I mean, like, what are we talking about here?

0:55.5

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