The Truth About Science Based Lifting w/ Dr. Milo Wolf and Dr. Pak
RP Strength Podcast
Dr. Mike Israetel, Nick Shaw
4.7 • 582 Ratings
🗓️ 19 January 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
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00:00 - Intro
01:15 - How Milo and Pak found RP
05:10 - Milo and Pak's lifting > research arc
18:30 - How "evidence based" fitness has changed over the last 10 years
23:35 - What does "evidence based" actually mean
37:30 - How science is being misrepresented
49:15 - Looks ≠ Expertise
52:50 - Upcoming research and projects
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome, everyone to the RP Strength podcast. I'm Nick Shaw, not joined by Dr. Mike today, |
| 0:10.2 | but have no fear. We've got two other doctors with us, and I'm going to do my best to pronounce |
| 0:16.2 | these. I'm not going to try to pronounce last names, guys. I'm not even going to try that. |
| 0:20.4 | But we got, we got Pack in Milo here. And if you're familiar with RP, you've almost certainly seen these guys on the RP YouTube channel. I don't know, like five or ten times. What's up? What's up, guys? How are you? Good. How are you? Um, you know, never, never better, huh? Never better. Never a dull a dull moment new year new me yeah well you know |
| 0:41.0 | there's never a dull moment when mike's around i would love to so actually let me kick this off |
| 0:48.0 | so you guys will be joining the podcast quite a bit more frequently going forward super looking |
| 0:51.9 | forward to that because let's be honest well people |
| 0:54.7 | probably certainly get tired of me but hey guess what you're stuck with your boy um mike's traveling all |
| 1:00.1 | over he's going internationally here a little bit he's doing some seminars i think coming up in |
| 1:03.5 | um singapore maybe australia too so you know he's living the jet setter life um you guys are |
| 1:10.3 | going to be helping r p a bunch with some cool projects. |
| 1:12.7 | I'll let you guys maybe talk a little bit about that. |
| 1:14.4 | But if we circle back, do you guys remember, I guess, how did you guys first know about RP? |
| 1:24.3 | That might be, you know, a cool story. |
| 1:27.2 | I'll let Milo take the lead as an RP OG. |
| 1:30.3 | It's true, yeah. There's actually a funny story about Pack and I on that note with RP, specifically. |
| 1:38.3 | So I first came across RP, I want to say in about 2018, 2019, maybe thereabouts, 2018, I think. |
| 1:46.7 | When Mike was |
| 1:48.3 | doing a lot of appearances on the Revive Stronger |
| 1:50.3 | podcast at the time. |
| 1:51.5 | And at the time, that was kind of |
| 1:53.3 | the podcast in the space. |
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