Like, get up at 5 a.m.

Go run a half marathon.

Come back and have avocado spread on artisan toast points, make a perfectly frothful

latte, you know, iron your bed sheets and exeathe the entire book of Leviticus before 7 a.m.

I mean, it's like impossible.

No wonder that we think we aren't morning people or we

aren't doing mornings right. Welcome back. Today I'm with my friend Jennifer Dukes Lee about her new

book, How to Love Your Morning. And if you're not a morning person, don't worry,

because our conversation is very relieving. Jennifer and I got into what our actual morning routines

look like, not the curated version, why so many women carry guilt about their morning routines

or lack of morning routines, and why I didn't build any kind of morning routine until I was

46 years old. So I'm very new at this. If you've ever scrolled past someone's perfectly lit

Bible and coffee photo and felt like you're doing it wrong, or if you just quietly decided

you're not a morning person, so the whole thing doesn't apply to you. Jennifer's going to reframe that in a way that actually feels like freedom.

But first, I want to tell you.

Okay, let's dive in with my friend Jennifer.

Jennifer Dukes-Lee, as a fellow author and as your friend, I got to ask you, were you afraid

to write a book about mornings? Because

whatever I write about, I'm sure that I will have a disaster and my life will fall apart in that

area during the process of writing the book. So did you feel like you were attempting fate by

talking about mornings? What were you thinking? You know, it's unlike any,

I 100% agree for every other book I've ever written. This is a book that I was not like, you know, God taught me this, you know, over the last few years and now I just need to tell the world about it. This book was actually my daughter's idea. They were like, Mom, you need to write a book about mornings. We were on vacation and I was like, I wish there was more time in the morning because I wanted to do the sunrise beachwalk, Bible time with my girls, my favorite espresso on this beach, and like all these things. And I'm like, oh, I just love mornings. And my older daughter, Lydia, slapped her hands on the table. And she and she said mom you need to write a book about

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