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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

The Truth About Escaping Scientology (with Aaron Smith-Levin)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2024

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Today, Andy speaks with former Scientologist and former staffer and member of the Sea Org, Aaron Smith-Levin. Aaron left the Sea Org in 2006 and Scientology in 2014. He is the creator of the YouTube channel Growing Up in Scientology, a channel dedicated to sharing his experience, talking with those who have also left Scientology, educating and exposing abuses within the organization  Aaron is the President of the SPTV Foundation, which helps people who are escaping from Scientology, and starting their lives in many cases from scratch. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original. Sponsors: Montana Knife Company Change Agents is presented by Montana Knife Company. Use CODE "CHANGEAGENTS10" for 10% off your first order at ⁠https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/⁠ Allegiance Gold: Go to https://ProtectWithAndy.com to get get exclusive lowest pricing on the market for select gold bars or call (844) 790-9191 to talk to an account representative. MTNTOUGH Go to ⁠https://mtntough.com⁠ and enter code CHANGEAGENTS to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 off your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

In that video, Tom Cruise says,

0:02.0

I put an ethics ruthlessly in my environment.

0:06.0

And that's because I put an ethics ruthlessly on myself.

0:09.0

Well, the motto of the sea organization

0:11.0

is to put in ethics on the planet.

0:15.0

How can I help?

0:18.0

How can I be useful in ending needless suffering? Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

0:23.6

We have to organize a social movement.

0:28.6

We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air.

0:35.6

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually it could change.

0:42.3

The people are the ones that can make the change.

0:51.3

Welcome back to Change Agents, an Ironclad original presented by Montana Knife Company.

0:56.2

Today we're going to be talking about Scientology, specifically about leaving Scientology or escaping Scientology, depending on the vernacular that you would choose to use.

1:08.2

How difficult is it? How often does it happen? What's the health of the organization to begin

1:13.6

with in general? Are they growing? Are they decreasing in size? And what happens to you personally and

1:19.6

professionally? And by that I mean, what actions does the Church of Scientology take if you should choose

1:26.3

to leave.

1:28.0

My guest today to discuss this is Aaron Smith Levin.

1:32.2

He is a former Scientologist and a former staffer and a member of the Sea Org or C organization.

1:37.9

We'll get into that in the episode if you don't know what that is.

1:41.3

Broadly, they are individuals who have dedicated their lives to the Church of Scientology,

1:45.0

and they sign a one billion-year contract.

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