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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Clearview AI: The Creepy Facial Recognition Start-Up That Scraped the Internet

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2024

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Today, Andy sits down with Investigative reporter Kashmir Hill about her research into the facial recognition company Clearview AI. Her new book is called "Your Face Belongs to Us: A Secretive Startup's Quest to End Privacy as We Know It." It tells the story of the tech startup, which has created a massive database of faces (scraped from the internet and social media sites), sparking major privacy concerns. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original. Sponsors: Change Agents is presented by Montana Knife Company. Use CODE "CHANGEAGENTS10" for 10% off your first order at ⁠https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/⁠ Allegiance Gold: Go to ProtectWithAndy.com today, our listeners will get exclusive  lowest pricing on the market for select gold bars. That’s ProtectWithAndy.com.  Or call (844) 790-9191 to talk to an account representative MTNTOUGH Go to ⁠https://mtntough.com⁠ and enter code CHANGEAGENTS to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. OnX Offroad Start your adventure with a 7-day free trial and experience the difference. Download onX Offroad today and elevate your offroading experience at https://www.onxmaps.com/offroad/app Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's why most officers tell me they would never arrest somebody based on facial recognition alone.

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But I think sometimes you run into automation bias where you're like, well, this system

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went through millions or billions of photos and it told me this is the right guy.

0:28.3

And then any other evidence that seems to seems incriminating like they have friends

0:32.6

from New Orleans becomes the confirmatory for you that it's the right person.

0:39.9

How can I help? How can I be useful in ending needless suffering? Do not be afraid of work

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that has no end. We have to organize a social movement.

1:00.0

We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air. I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually it could change.

1:05.0

The people are the ones that can make the change.

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Ladies and gentlemen, good morning.

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Welcome to change agents and Ironclad Original, presented by Montana Knife Company.

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Today's episode is about Clearview AI, which is a tech startup that has a database of more

1:27.1

than 30 billion images.

1:29.0

That's right. You read that number correctly. That links individual faces with names and

1:33.9

identities and is selling access to this technology to law enforcement. My guest today

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is Kashmir Hill, a technology reporter for the New York Times.

1:45.7

In addition to the New York Times, her work has appeared in publications including Forbes,

1:49.9

Popular Science, and Gizmoda.

1:52.0

She has a new book specifically about Clearview AI.

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