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The President’s Inbox

The Trump-Putin Summit, With Michael Kimmage

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News:politics, News

4.4734 Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Michael Kimmage, professor of history at the Catholic University of America, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss the results of the meeting between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska on the war in Ukraine.   Mentioned on the Episode:   Michael Kimmage, Collisions: The War in Ukraine and the Origins of the New Global Instability   Michael Kimmage and Maria Lipman, “The Limits of Putin’s Balancing Act," Foreign Affairs   For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/trump-putin-summit-michael-kimmage

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0:00.0

Welcome to the President's Inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay, the Mary and David Boyes

0:07.0

Distinguished Senior Fellow in U.S. foreign policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.

0:11.0

This week's topic is the Trump-Pooten Summit.

0:19.0

With me to discuss what we learned from the meeting president donald trump hosted with

0:25.9

Russian president of Vladimir Putin in Alaska is Michael Kimmich. Michael is a professor of

0:31.5

history at the Catholic University of America. From 2014 to 2016, he served on the policy planning staff at the U.S. Department of State,

0:41.2

where he held the Russia-Ukraine portfolio. Michael is the author of four books, the latest of which is

0:47.0

collisions the war in Ukraine and the origins of the new global instability. He writes frequently

0:53.4

on the war in Ukraine. His most recent peace and

0:56.1

foreign affairs with Maria Lipman was titled, The Limits of Putin's Balancing Act. Michael, thank you

1:02.8

for coming back on the president's inbox. Jim, it's great to be back with you. Michael, as we are

1:07.4

talking here right now, President Trump is meeting at the White House with

1:12.2

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and a group of European leaders.

1:16.8

They are discussing the results of the Alaska summit.

1:20.4

So this is an evolving story, and no doubt more bits and pieces are going to come out over

1:26.1

the next 24 hours.

1:28.7

But I'd like to sort of drill down what we know right now about the summit. And perhaps we could begin by talking a little bit

1:34.5

about what we know was established at the summit, what they said and what actually came out of the

1:41.6

meeting. In some ways, I think we know with greater precision what was not established at the summit

1:46.9

last Friday, not to confuse it with the meeting that's ongoing in Washington this week with

1:52.6

Trump and Zelensky and European leaders.

1:55.6

So going into the summit last Friday, a very high-profile event, President Trump had been seemingly committed to

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