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THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BATTLES THE PRC FOR OCEANIA. 4/4: Voyagers: The Settlement of the Pacific by Nicholas Thomas (Author)

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🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BATTLES THE PRC FOR OCEANIA.  4/4: Voyagers: The Settlement of the Pacific by  Nicholas Thomas  (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Voyagers-Settlement-Pacific-Nicholas-Thomas/dp/1541619838/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3TWNZZ00KO4TU&keywords=NICHOLAS+CLARK+VOYAGERS&qid=1674136652&sprefix=nicholas+clark+voyagers%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-1

The islands of Polynesia, Melanesia, and Micronesia stretch across a huge expanse of ocean and encompass a multitude of different peoples. Starting with Captain James Cook, the earliest European explorers to visit the Pacific were astounded and perplexed to find populations thriving thousands of miles from continents. Who were these people? From where did they come? And how were they able to reach islands dispersed over such vast tracts of ocean?  In Voyagers, the distinguished anthropologist Nicholas Thomas charts the course of the seaborne migrations that populated the islands between Asia and the Americas from late prehistory onward. Drawing on the latest research, including insights gained from genetics, linguistics, and archaeology, Thomas provides a dazzling account of these long-distance migrations, the seagoing technologies that enabled them, and the societies they left in their wake.
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This is CBSI on the world.

0:21.9

I'm John Batchel and Professor Nicholas Thomas is here.

0:24.3

His new book is Voyagers.

0:26.0

Many avenues that we've not had time to explore, but now the great big mystery that just sits

0:31.1

there and makes you laugh.

0:32.9

It's like the Game of Thrones or trying to figure out the world by reading Greek history.

0:38.8

All right, here we go.

0:40.2

It's a map, not quite a map, constructed by two pie aia.

0:45.2

I say that incorrectly, Professor, forgive me.

0:48.4

What are we looking at?

0:49.7

Because you reproduce it in your book.

0:52.7

On Cook's first voyage, the ship spent several months off the island of Tahiti, and the British

1:02.2

developed close relationships with a host of islanders.

1:07.1

It wasn't one of these passing encounters where they exchanged a few things or interacted violently.

1:13.6

It was a sustained interaction.

1:15.6

And one of the most extraordinary aspects of this interaction was that Tupaya, who was a priest, a navigator, a political player in the dynamics of the Tahitian kingdoms at that time.

1:30.8

He was clearly extremely interested in these people who had appeared from beyond the known universe at that particular time.

1:39.8

He was interested in why they were there and what they were doing.

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