How is that for is that volume okay yep volumes great cool okay this is Ben

Cosgrove a touring musician who like most musicians during the pandemic is

not actually doing any touring he's speaking here with producer Taylor

Quimby I'm sorry because you've got a good ensemble but if you can take off

that vest it's one of those yes actually that actually occurred me right

before I hop down that it was too comfortable to on the screen you could see

Ben is dressed in what I'm gonna call pandemic casual shaggy hair maybe a

little shaggy or the usual in front of him a microphone and behind him on a

shelf a long row of thin brown rectangles what is that behind you are those

files the brown the brown row actually that those are the guts of a piano

they're a really my grandmother's piano was destroyed in the flood last year

oh wow and it was like place all things it was like the first piano I ever played and

so I was able to rescue this piece which is all the hammers and all of the

weapons but yeah conversation piece do you remember any of this stuff from

when you were really really little oh man yeah let me hear it let me let me I

wrote this now a sentence it's called waves

there's a lot of music about the outdoors and our relationship to it but it's

John is like classical and new age and ambient they can sometimes feel

almost authorless is if the absence of vocals allow us to hear

instrumental music as a representation of the natural world I've always tried

treating the rest of the world as sort of like a writing prompt in like without

using words or images like how can you sort of suggest what this looks and

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