meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Outside/In

10x10: Sand Beach

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Even in the quietest of times, sand beaches are defined by movement and change. “I think it's fair to say the beach is one of the most flexible or dynamic, if you will, habitats in the world. It’s super geologically unstable,” said coastal ecologist Dr. Bianca Charbonneau, also known as “the Dune Goon.” Sign up for the Outside/In newsletter for biweekly reading lists, episode extras, and chances to get involved. On this edition of 10x10, we explore how beaches move. Producer Justine Paradis examines the systems and feedback loops on and around the sand beach, the science taking place there, and how the way beaches are changing is itself changing in a changing world. Support great storytelling by making a donation to Outside/In. Links Hawaii’s Beaches are Disappearing, a report from ProPublica and Honolulu Star-Advertiser Rockaway: Surfing Headlong into a New Life by Diane Cardwell United Nations report on the global sand shortage “Peak Sand” from Planet Money Beach profiling and community science with NH Sea Grant and UNH Cooperative Extension. Announcing: the Outside/In Book Club Heads-up! In May, we will be debuting the O/I Book Club. The pick for the first book, selected by our listeners, is Trace: Memory, History, Race, and the American Landscape by geologist and writer Lauret Savoy. It is so good: she tells hidden stories of American landscapes, sometimes starting from the bedrock, and explores the interplay between geography, history, and culture. if you don’t get a chance to read the book we think you’ll still enjoy the conversation. But if you want to read along with us, here’s a link to buy the book from your local independent bookseller, or you can always check it out from the library.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

This is Outside In. I'm Sam Evans Brown. To me, the thing I always noticed first is the

0:11.0

colors. You know, on certain days, if it's a cloudless sky, the ocean is this incredibly

0:16.2

dark blue, almost like a sapphire. And that's Diane Cardwell, standing on the beach at Rockaway,

0:22.3

in February of 2021. FYI, it was still coronavirus winter in New York at the time, so

0:30.0

double masks. The sounds a little bit muffled. I don't know what it is about a beach in winter,

0:39.5

but there's something that I find truly magical. I mean, there's something so in Congress

0:46.0

about snow on the beach, but I think that's only because that's not how we are used to using it.

0:52.4

It's like it's always here, right? It's comforting, isn't it? To think that the beach in the ocean

1:00.0

are always there. Diane is a writer and she started spending a lot of time at Rockaway

1:05.3

after what you might call a midlife crisis. She had just gone through a divorce

1:09.9

and dealing with fears that she would never be happy again. But long story short, she discovered

1:14.9

surfing. And I was terrible. Just terrible still. I'm not very good, but I loved it. I

1:22.3

managed it to my feet for just a few seconds and I just was so in love with that feeling,

1:27.3

you know, just gliding across the water as if you're some kind of magical creature, right?

1:33.3

Like the board sort of disappears and you become part of the ocean and part of this kind of

1:41.8

cosmic force that is energy in water making waves.

1:46.8

Diane fell so in love with surfing that she ended up moving to Rockaway. And in 2020,

1:54.4

published a memoir titled Rockaway, surfing headlong into a new life. Rockaway, by the way,

2:00.3

is in Queens, on a peninsula at the western edge of Long Island. And it's famously a surf town.

2:06.0

People come in from Brooklyn or the city for the day to surf, hang out, watch the waves. And

2:11.3

there's also a solid local year round community. All that on a spit of sand on the edge of the

2:18.4

Atlantic Ocean, a very tenuous spit of sand. Just how tenuous came into sharp relief just a few

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from NHPR, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of NHPR and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.