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To form those legendary bodybuilder physiques, athletes have long relied on hard work, good food, and lots of drugs.

But not everyone takes this path. Created as a counter-movement to conventional bodybuilding, natural bodybuilding, places the focus on building muscle without performing enhancing substances like

anabolic steroids, growth hormones, insulin, and sarms.

But in their quest to celebrate muscle without chemistry, some contests ban anyone who's had

too many frapachino.

Let's Grow Big Together. The podcast that tests positive for G-A-M-E.

I'm Fausto Furno.

And I'm Mark Filian.

In this series, we're taking a look at the passion for muscle, the incredible journey

of bodybuilding, muscle gods, and muscle worship.

Today, Australian natural bodybuilder, Father and Coach, Aaron Iron Curtis,

joins us to talk about getting banned from natural bodybuilding contests

after testing positive for Jacked, a popular caffeinated pre-workout drink.

At the time of his band, Aaron was one of the frontrunners in natural bodybuilding,

and to this day, he remains performance-enhancing drug-free.

Plus, why do some pro-bodybuilders dress up and drag for fun?

And what is Iron Curtis's drag me?

Hello.

Hi, is this Aaron Curtis?

It is.

Hi, Aaron.

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