The Trial Of Lori Vallow Daybell Day 4 Part 1
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🗓️ 11 April 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
You’ll hear every word of the gripping testimony as Lori’s own brother, Adam Cox, takes the stand and describes a failed intervention plan with Charles Vallow just one day before Charles was killed. Adam details Lori’s disturbing beliefs—including claims of divine transformation and labeling Charles a “zombie” possessed by a dark spirit named “Ned.”
You’ll also hear from Kay Woodcock, Charles’s sister, as she delivers a heartbreaking account of how she learned of her brother’s death via a vague text from Lori, and how Lori sent Charles’s ashes in a FedEx box—along with “some crap,” as Kay put it. Her pain, anger, and shock are all there, in real time.
And through it all, you’ll hear Lori herself—calm, controlled, representing herself, cross-examining her own family, and showing little to no emotion as her beliefs, her behavior, and her potential motives are laid bare.
This is the complete courtroom audio from April 10, 2025—no edits, no filters, just the raw reality of one of the most bizarre and disturbing murder trials in modern history.
Listen now to hear the truth unfold in real time.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to live courtroom coverage of the trial of Lori Vallow Daybell from the Hidden |
| 0:06.2 | Killers podcast and True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom. |
| 0:12.1 | I initially said okay, but not anymore. No. So we just ignored you. Yes. Where'd you end up |
| 0:19.4 | staying? My mom and dad's house. Okay. On July 10th, |
| 0:25.1 | did you understand Charles was also flying into Phoenix? Yes. Did you see Charles on the 10th? |
| 0:31.2 | No, I did not. Did you see your sister Lori on the 10th? No, I did not. So you told us you stayed with your parents. What |
| 0:39.4 | did you do on the 10th? They picked me up and we went to lunch and then we just, I think, |
| 0:45.1 | hung out with the house. You said your son, Zach lived here at the time? Yes. Who was he |
| 0:52.0 | living with at that time? I think he was living with my mom and dad. |
| 0:56.0 | Okay. |
| 0:57.0 | So although you didn't talk with Charles on the 10th, did you have an understanding of what he was |
| 1:09.0 | going to do the morning of the 11th. |
| 1:11.4 | Yes. |
| 1:12.2 | What was that? |
| 1:13.4 | He was going to go pick up JJ, his son. |
| 1:16.8 | It was his turn to, I guess, have him for a few days or whatever. |
| 1:24.3 | Were Charles and JJ really close? |
| 1:27.5 | Yes. |
| 1:31.0 | So the morning of July 11th, you were not expecting to get together with Charles at 7 in the morning, right? |
| 1:41.3 | No. |
| 1:42.4 | Did you get a text message from Charles? |
| 1:45.9 | Yes, I did. |
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