The Trauma of Burnout: Navigating the Modern Epidemic with Dr. Claire Plumbly
A New Way of Being
Simon Mundie
4.8 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 17 February 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Rates of burnout are soaring and it is crucial to know how to manage your nervous system before it manages you. Dr. Claire Plumbly is an expert in this area and she shares her insights on the different types of burnout, the importance of recognising the signs, and practical strategies for finding balance and post-burnout growth. This conversation is ideal for anyone looking to better understand and navigate the challenges of our fast-paced, always-connected world.
Show Notes:
- Understanding burnout as a "disease of civilisation"
- The importance of "switching down the gears" and creating space to rest and recharge
- Recognising the three dimensions of burnout
- Exploring the five-stage model of burnout and the importance of self-awareness
- The autonomic nervous system and polyvagal theory
- How to foster a sense of safety
- Practical tips for using breathing techniques and biofeedback to regulate
- Understanding the impact of early life experiences and attachment styles on burnout
- Embracing post-burnout growth and living in alignment with personal values
Claire's book is called Burnout: How To manage Your Nervous System Before It Manages You: https://www.drclaireplumbly.com/burnout-book
Website: https://www.drclaireplumbly.com/
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| 0:00.0 | Today I am sitting down with Dr Claire Plumley to explore the modern phenomenon of burnout |
| 0:10.8 | and how to manage your nervous system before it manages you. |
| 0:15.1 | Dr Plumley shares her insights on the different types of burnout, |
| 0:18.6 | the importance of recognising the science, |
| 0:25.8 | and practical strategies for finding balance and enjoying post-burnout growth. |
| 0:30.4 | This conversation is such a valuable one for anyone looking to better understand and navigate the challenges of our fast-paced, always-connected world. |
| 0:37.6 | Dr Claire Plumley, how lovely to see you. How are you? |
| 0:40.7 | I'm really good. All the better seeing your smiling face. |
| 0:43.5 | Oh, how kind. The feeling is mutual. And I am delighted to have you on the podcast. |
| 0:48.4 | You have written an excellent book, The Trauma of Burnout. That's the US name. |
| 0:53.9 | Yeah. UK name, just to keep things interesting, is burnout with a particularly important subtitle. Do you want to knock that out? Yeah, because I think it does differentiate it, doesn't it? You'll know because you've read it. How to manage your nervous system before it manages you. Because I think a lot of people feel overwhelmed and that is the sign the nervous |
| 1:11.1 | system is trying to look after you and we want to reclaim that a little bit. |
| 1:15.1 | And you've got some absolute zingers in your book. The first one I'd like to start our chat |
| 1:21.1 | with is the following. Burnout, a disease of civilization. And this really is a very common modern phenomenon, isn't it? |
| 1:30.9 | Yeah. You hear it talked about everywhere, don't you now? And the previous understanding of it being |
| 1:36.9 | quite narrow, maybe for more corporate professionals, I think is unhelpful. And to think about, |
| 1:42.1 | because the definition in the World Health Organization is |
| 1:45.0 | about it coming from chronic unmanaged occupational stress. And I'm saying actually |
| 1:49.6 | occupational carries over into all sorts of areas of life. Parents, informal caregivers, |
| 1:56.2 | students, quite often that work isn't really being acknowledged. And when are we not at work, basically? |
| 2:02.4 | You come home, do your second shift. |
| 2:04.3 | And also everything now is available to carry on at all times with the way tech has gone. |
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