Beyond Mindset: Why Your Body Needs to Feel Safe
A New Way of Being
Simon Mundie
4.8 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 21 February 2025
⏱️ 8 minutes
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You can't just think your way out of stress and anxiety. Real change happens when the body feels safe. This bitesize episode is with Emma Seppala, a best-selling author, Yale lecturer, and international keynote speaker. A psychologist and research scientist by training, her expertise is
the science of happiness, emotional intelligence, and social connection. She has written two
best-selling books The Happiness Track and Sovereign.
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| 0:00.0 | So I was in New York City during 9-11, and after that day, I had a lot of anxiety every morning at 8.30, you know, and I tried a lot of things. I went to like hot yoga, you know, five times a week. And I followed these like Tibetan monks to all their talks in New York |
| 0:23.0 | City and I you know I'd feel peace for a little bit but it just wasn't lasting I'm and I was still |
| 0:27.4 | shaking at 8.30 in the morning every day and so before I had to get it I go out of the building so I |
| 0:33.2 | until I walked into this breathing class called sky breath meditation art. It's offered by a nonprofit called Art of Living, |
| 0:39.7 | which is a world. |
| 0:40.6 | It was started in India and it's all over the world now. |
| 0:43.2 | It's deeply entrenched in like the traditional yoga philosophy and culture. |
| 0:53.4 | But it's not what you would learn in your local yoga class. It's much more |
| 0:57.0 | in depth. It's called sky breath meditation. And I took the class just thinking, gosh, this is just |
| 1:03.7 | another thing. It's not going to help me. And then, lo and behold, you know, my anxiety went away. |
| 1:09.3 | And I, you know, what is it, 20, 25 years later, I'm still |
| 1:12.5 | doing my sky breath meditation every day. It was very transformative. And I was able to just |
| 1:19.2 | move on, you know, and excel at what I was doing and feel so much better. And about 10 years |
| 1:26.3 | later, I was a postdoctoral research assistant a postdoc |
| 1:31.1 | in psychology at the University of Wisconsin and I was seeing all these veterans with trauma |
| 1:37.2 | and not being helped and I thought let me just see if the breathing can help them the way it helped |
| 1:41.7 | me and we ran a series of studies now with veterans with trauma and high anxiety as well as students |
| 1:47.0 | with anxiety and just generally burnout and so forth. |
| 1:50.6 | And I've seen how profoundly impactful it is to help people come back to a place of not, |
| 1:56.2 | yeah, in stillness. |
| 1:57.2 | And that's very difficult for, it's difficult to meditate when you have a lot of anxiety |
| 2:01.9 | i know after 9-11 meditation wasn't even a possibility but the thing that the sky breath does is |
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