It was like nameless, faceless, accounts that were over based in India, coming after the business,

writing bad reviews.

And then they found my wife and they started sending her threatening messages, I should say, extortion emails to me.

And about 3 a.m. in the morning on Sunday night, I was like, I couldn't. I was, I was, I was alone. I was scared. I was like, and my wife was freaking out. And I'm like, all right, I'm deleting. I'm just going to lock everything down, which is obviously ignorant and too little too late. Welcome once again to the Conversations to That Matter podcast.

I'm your host, John Harris.

We have with us a special guest today who has not been on the podcast before, but he is

being talked about on the internet because there was a story just yesterday in The Blaze.

It came out.

The title of the story is Church joins persecution of Texas business owner who criticized H-1B visas.

And I have had the privilege of talking to Daniel Keene, who is at the center of this story.

We've actually been talking, I don't know now, maybe for a few months, just sort of back and forth about this kind of a situation.

And I'm really happy to see some coverage of this.

And I'm going to let Daniel share his story since he's the focus of the article.

So welcome to the podcast, Daniel. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me, John. I think this is going to be

an encouraging story. I was encouraged just from the standpoint that this is getting coverage and also

your bravery because it's so rare to hear of people who are in these churches or Christian institutions that are

willing to go public after an ordeal like you've been through.

And I think the purpose of that is to warn people, to let people know, this is what the leadership is doing.

And in this case, I'll let you talk about it, but it seems to me it's importing extra

biblical things to discipline you, essentially, and using laws that aren't in the Bible,

but are imported from more liberal political instincts to really try to punish you and make an example of you to some

extent perhaps. So I want to maybe start at the beginning and just let you introduce yourself

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