It turns out that the very concept that masculinity is toxic has much deeper roots than most of us realize.

Most of us probably think, what, the 60s or something with the feminist movement, second wave.

No, no, no, you have to go all the way back to the Industrial Revolution.

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When we first got married, you would often say, I never want to be like my dad, ever.

That was like a mission of my life. It was a mission because i will not become like a womanizer like a womanizer divorce selfish money idol i mean there were some good things

about my dad but that was he walked out when i was seven so i I was, I was on a quest, I will never become that man.

But when I was a junior in college, I looked in the mirror one day and I thought, I am my dad.

I wasn't a Christian yet, and I was scared.

I was going to parties and drinking, and I was college quarterback, so I had women. And money was at the top. I was going to parties and drinking, and I was college quarterback, so I had women.

And money was at the top.

I was like, I picked my major based on how much money can I make.

And then I come to Christ and Jesus starts transforming my life.

I read the Bible and I'm like, if I don't do something, I'm going to become my dad, even

though I don't want to be. It's going to happen.

And one of my quest was, I got to find out what a godly man looks like because I don't know.

And you know what? You have become that. Like really, honestly, I look at you and think you're an

amazing man of God. Well, that's nice. And we're going to talk about this.

We have Nancy Piercy back with us.

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