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Politics Unpacked

The Tory Psychodrama Is Back!

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News, Politics, News & Politics

4.11.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Kemi Badenoch sacks Robert Jenrick after claiming to have clear evidence he was planning defecting to Reform UK.


Hugo Rifkind unpacks the politics of the day with Matthew Parris and Juliet Samuel.


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0:00.0

I'm Hugo Rifkin. Now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day from Elon Musk,

0:09.7

backing down over AI deepfakes to Wes Streeting subtle digs towards kids, Sama and Donald Trump's unhinged eating habits.

0:16.4

And joining me, it's the Big Mac and Fries of Times journalism. It's Matthew Paris. Hello, Matthew.

0:20.9

Hello. And Julian Samuel. Hello. Hello. I'm just on which one of you is the Big Mac? That's what I want to know. The Big Matt and fries. That almost works in a way. Let's start with some big political news that's just broken as we're speaking. The Tory leader, Kemi Beanoch, said that she she sacked the shadow justice secretary Robert Jenrick.

0:38.6

This morning, I removed the Conservative whip from Robert Jenrik after dismissing him from the shadow cabinet.

0:45.6

I was very sorry to be presented with clear, irrefutable evidence, not just that he was preparing to defect,

0:53.5

but he was planning to do so in the most

0:55.5

damaging way possible to the Conservative Party and his shadow cabinet colleagues. It is my

1:02.1

responsibility to protect our party, and faced with that information, I took the only decision

1:08.2

that any responsible leader could. Well, she went on to say the British public are tired of political psychodrama and so am I.

1:14.7

They saw too much of it in the last government.

1:16.1

They're seeing too much of it in this government.

1:17.4

I will not repeat those mistakes.

1:19.5

So, Matthew Parris, Robert Jenrick is allegedly planning to defect.

1:24.0

Can't see him in Labour.

1:24.9

Do you think he might be going to the Greens?

1:28.5

No. She shot his his fox. On the other hand, it's an unfortunate situation from her point

1:35.3

of view from the start. She's quite right when she said she had no choice. She certainly had no

1:40.6

choice. You were asking earlier, is this strength or weakness? It's neither. It's, it's,

1:45.6

um, it's, um, it's, um, it's inevitability. He's, he has a mixed reputation, to put it kindly

1:52.2

amongst his colleagues and the conservative, on the conservative benches. He's known to be

1:59.6

furiously, frantically ambitious.

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